Member
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Jan 26, 2004, 12:50 AM
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2 phrases I never got?
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Hello to all you other Animation Lovers out there:
I've been hooked since I started watching them on Saturday Mornings in the early 1960's.
To me any cartoon done after the year of my birth (1960) just isn't as good as the ones done in the 30's & 40's.
Why?
and who OKS these new terrible bastardizations of the old classic characters? Tom & Jerry, Looney Tunes, they're not only badly writen, they're badly drawn too, what happend to animation after 1960?
I do love some of the Adult Swim cartoons though.
Why do they all have some of the cartoon drawn in Japan, (if you read the credits they all send it to Japan for some of it) What if I wanted to be an inbetweener, or a clean-up artist for animation? Could I get any work on the East Coast?
Could someone please explain to me these 2 phrases from the old Looney Tunes Cartoons,
1)- Taint Funny Mcgee
2)- Silence is foo...
oh yea, and what does, this come from too?
When they scream...
"WHY DOESN'T SOMEONE TELL ME THESE THINGS".
I know they all have to do with things that were popular in the 30's and 40's but what?
If you can please explain them to me, that would be great.
Thanks
Bruce
http://maruce.tripod.com
bmorano-bellatlantic.net
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Intern / Contributor
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Jan 26, 2004, 7:06 AM
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"Taint Funny Mcgee" comes from the "Fibber Mcgee and Molly" radio programe from the 30's.
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Intern / Contributor
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Jan 26, 2004, 11:14 AM
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The Phrase "Why Doesn't Somebody Tell Me These Things." come from a song with the same Title. I know it was done by the Glenn Miller Band, but not sure if they were the first to use it.
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Research Guru
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Jan 26, 2004, 1:29 PM
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"Tain't funny, McGee": This is a catchline from the old radio comedy series Fibber McGee and Molly, very popular in the 1940s.
Jim Jordan (1896-1988) played Fibber McGee; his wife Marian (1918-1961) played Molly. The series ran on NBC from 1935 to 1959.
A well-known running gag on the show had Fibber opening the closet to get something and all kinds of old junk falling out. This offered a great opportunity for the radio sound-effects people.
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"Oh boy." -- Allan Sherman
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Directing Animator / Contributor
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Jan 26, 2004, 3:31 PM
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Fibber McGee usually played a bumbling husband to his smarter wife Molly (the usual sitcom stereotypes). Fibber would usually utter awful puns or make wisecracks about his current trouble-plagued situation and Molly with her Irish brogue would react to those puns by saying "Tain't funny, McGee!"
"Foo" was a catchphrase in the comic strip "Smokey Stover" drawn and written by Bill Holman in the 1930s and 40s. The strip took place in a fire house and Smokey was a somewhat comically deranged fireman who traded bad puns with The Fire Chief and various other characters..."Foo" was uttered by the firehouse's pet cat and most everyone else usually in disgusted reaction to the puns. "Smokey Stover" was animated as a weekly segment of "Archie's TV Funnies" in 1971...about 20 years after the "Smokey Stover" strip ended its run (in 1952).
"Tain't funny, McGee": This is a catchline from the old radio comedy series Fibber McGee and Molly, very popular in the 1940s.
Jim Jordan (1896-1988) played Fibber McGee; his wife Marian (1918-1961) played Molly. The series ran on NBC from 1935 to 1959.
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"Don't chew gum on camera. Don't whistle. You may kiss Bob Barker but please don't kill him." -announcer Johnny Olson briefing the audience of potential contestants for "The Price is Right"
(This post was edited by artytoons on Jan 26, 2004, 3:55 PM)
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Directing Animator / Contributor
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Jan 27, 2004, 9:55 AM
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Arthur Q. Bryan, the voice of Elmer Fudd from the 1930s to the 1950s, was a regular cast member on the "Fibber McGee and Molly" radio program. Bryan played the McGee's next door neighbor who often was a heated rival to Fibber.
It was interesting to hear Bryan's voice speak normally (instead of his famous "wascally wabbit" speech impediment voice as Elmer) from some "Fibber" shows I heard on cassette.
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"Don't chew gum on camera. Don't whistle. You may kiss Bob Barker but please don't kill him." -announcer Johnny Olson briefing the audience of potential contestants for "The Price is Right"
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Inbetweener
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Jan 31, 2004, 11:36 PM
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To me any cartoon done after the year of my birth (1960) just isn't as good as the ones done in the 30's & 40's.
Why?
That has something to do with the abolition of something called "block booking". http://www.cobbles.com/...ase_6supreme1948.htm
Basically, the major movie studios owned theater chains. The independant theater owners sued and won. When the major studios lost control of the theaters they were at the whim of independant owners.
"Block booking" was a package deal consisting of a double feature (the A and B-pictures), short subjects (cartoons or live action such as The three Stooges), travelogues and newsreels. The independant owners didn't want the whole package because they could make more money just through showings of the main feature. Shorts took time away from another showing of the feature.
When the major studios owned their own theaters, they could pay for the cartoons from some of the profits brought in from the main feature. The shorts themselves couldn't be relied on to bring in revenue to justify their costs. At first the studios tightened the budgets of the cartoons after the abolition of block booking, which is why the cartoons of the fifties look a little more limited than those of the forties.
Eventually, the major studios threw in the towel and the majority of animation production was done for television instead, which relied on strict time limits and budgets. Hence the creation of limited animation or "illustrated radio" in the late fifties and sixties. By the seventies, in order to keep costs down, the work was farmed out to overseas studios in Korea, where the animators worked faster and cheaper than their American counterparts.
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Director / Moderator
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Feb 1, 2004, 10:20 AM
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It wasn't just the animation that started to get manufactured. The writing did too. The main reason Hanna Barbara was successful when they started was because the head writers at Warner Bros. Mike Maltese, Warren Foster, and Tedd Pierce went there for the higher salaries. This, of course, caused thw WB toons to suffer emensely. But, when those three men retired (or threw their hands up in frustration over the business), that's when the toons started to really go down hill. But, what really brought the toons down to unprecidented levels of crap was when they were taken over by the corporate machine. That's when they became the same old garbage over and over again. At least until John Kricfalusi came along!!!
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