Key Animator
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Dec 2, 2007, 4:54 PM
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Panchito Pistoles wasn't listed nor was Joe Carioca. But Joe Carioca changed overtime to Ze Carioca and is one of the most popular characters in Brazil, but Panchito who dresses in a Mariachi clothing and carries a pistol which makes him look like Pancho Villa, could make some people questionable. (But still, I like The Three Caballeros.)
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Thank God for kids who love obscure things-Lee Hazelwood (1929-2007)
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Supervising Animator / Contributor
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Dec 3, 2007, 6:20 AM
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Now why am I not surprised the crows from "Dumbo" are on the list? 
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People think I am crazy just because I didn't like "Ratatouille." Am I REALLY crazy, or do I see things differently?
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Supervising Animator
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Dec 3, 2007, 3:40 PM
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I was surprised to see King Louie on the list. It never occurred to me that he could be a stereotype.
And the wolf dressed as a Jewish peddler from The Three Little Pigs wasn't included.
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Directing Animator
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Dec 4, 2007, 12:03 PM
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"...I was surprised to see King Louie on the list. It never occurred to me that he could be a stereotype."
I don't know how he could even be considered a stereotype, since his voice is provided by the Italian-American pop singer, Louis Prima. Unless I'm mistaken, Prima is not Black... so I don't see how King Louie could be perceived as a Black stereotype; if that's the reason he was included on the list.
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Supervising Animator
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Dec 4, 2007, 12:29 PM
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This is what he said in the article:
"Having outgrown the crude portrayal of African-Americans as black crows, in 1967 Disney decides to portray them as monkeys instead."
I did it before and I'll do it again....
Oh, and I believe Louis Prima was Italian.
(This post was edited by cartoonfan4ever on Dec 4, 2007, 12:34 PM)
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Inbetweener
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Dec 4, 2007, 3:55 PM
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I'm pretty sure Louis Prima was of Italian descent,
and--unless I'm mistaken--his wife, Keely Smith,
was a Cherokee Indian, as I recall. They appeared
together on television variety shows back in the
1950s (when I was a kid). [I hadn't thought about
it before, but I guess they were the Sonny & Cher
of their era!]
(This post was edited by hbtoonfan on Dec 4, 2007, 3:56 PM)
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Supervising Animator
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Dec 5, 2007, 5:47 PM
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Okay-the Indians from Peter Pan and Sunflower from Fantasia certainly make sense but that idea on Sebastian had me ready to laugh my head off!
The "duke of soul" and "black fish"part makes sense-but they're definately reading too hard into it!
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Bugs Bunny cartoons are not supposed to feature a lisping Viking rabbit hunter enthusiastically professing his operatic love for a bunny in drag.
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Inbetweener
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Dec 6, 2007, 5:26 AM
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Okay-the Indians from Peter Pan and Sunflower from Fantasia certainly make sense but that idea on Sebastian had me ready to laugh my head off!
The "duke of soul" and "black fish"part makes sense-but they're definately reading too hard into it!
I recently saw a tape of Samuel E. Wright being
interviewed at the time "The Little Mermaid" was
first released (1989). It was part of a retrospective
on Disney music. He was proud to be involved in a
film that he knew would be "a classic" and was very
flattered that Sebastian was a caricature of himself.
You could tell by his expression that he was especially amused by the animators' take on his
facial features and his hand gestures.
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Research Guru
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Dec 19, 2007, 11:48 PM
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Not mentioned on the Cracked list -- and this is understandable -- are the African chief and cannibals from the 1932 short Trader Mickey. The "natives" even dance on skulls!
Hardly anyone's seen Trader Mickey in recent years, as Walt Disney Studios withdrew it from TV and video release. Come to think about it, I don't think it ever got shown on TV or video.
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Inbetweener
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Dec 20, 2007, 5:24 AM
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Things were so different back in the 1930s, '40s and
'50s that a lot of stuff got past the censors that
never would in these PC times today. To cite just
one example: a Howdy Doody comic book (#6, to
be exact) depicted Howdy and Dilly being cooked in a
pot by a cannibal! And this from Dell, a self-regulating company that didn't have to subscribe to
the Comics Code Authority because, as they proudly
proclaimed, "Dell Comics Are Good Comics."
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Apprentice
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Mar 11, 2008, 12:09 AM
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Being an old time Disney animation lover I won't even get started on this crap. What I found odd about this jerk's list is he finds The Siamese Twin Gang from Chip and Dale's Rescue Rangers as racist but doesn't mention anything about the Siamese cats from 101 Dalmatians.
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Apprentice
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Mar 11, 2008, 7:54 AM
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Yes, I stand corrected. It was late last night when I posted and my older brain here was tired. And it didn't help that I was staring at the DVD of 101 Dalmatians sitting on my desk.
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Inbetweener
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Mar 19, 2008, 3:15 PM
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I was surprised to see King Louie on the list. It never occurred to me that he could be a stereotype.
It occured to me tha the was after seeing he was NOT included in the New Jungle Book sequal. They seemed to have gone out of their way to avoid him. Then I realized--he was supposed to bea Jazz singer--coincidence?
BTW, what about the hyenas in the Lion KIng? Weren't they attacked as racist gansta stereotypes?
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