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  hgwqhge  

  Apprentice

 Posted:
  Jun 8, 2010, 12:21 PM

Droopy's Good Deed You Must Register Before You Can Post

i have read that a scene of this cartoon is cut always. It is listed on the description here on BCDB:
http://www.bcdb.com/...y%27s_Good_Deed.html
it is the third one:
3) After Spike sees Droopy run out of the burning cabin carrying a blonde lady in his arms, Spike runs into the same burning cabin and comes running out with a black lady in a red dress, red lipstick and gold hoop earrings.

I have also read that some people say it doesn't exist.
has anyone seen it?

 
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  SnuffyDerma  

  Lead Animator / Contributor
SnuffyDerma

 Posted:
  Jun 8, 2010, 3:45 PM
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Re: Droopy's Good Deed [In reply to] You Must Register Before You Can Post

I've never seen or heard of that scene. The way I've always seen it is Droopy runs out with the blonde, Spike sees that, runs into the cabin, it goes POOF, nothing left standing but the cabin's outline and Spike inside charred head to toe, Droopy comes back, opens the door and ask: "Hey Blackie, Anymore babes in there?". Then it fades out.
 
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  zavkram  

  Directing Animator
zavkram

 Posted:
  Jun 9, 2010, 2:25 AM

Re: Droopy's Good Deed [In reply to] You Must Register Before You Can Post

Yes, many have debunked that "missing scene"; it is an urban myth.

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  Dodsworth  

  Inbetweener

 Posted:
  Jun 10, 2010, 1:40 AM

Re: Droopy's Good Deed [In reply to] You Must Register Before You Can Post


In Reply To
3) After Spike sees Droopy run out of the burning cabin carrying a blonde lady in his arms, Spike runs into the same burning cabin and comes running out with a black lady in a red dress, red lipstick and gold hoop earrings.

I have also read that some people say it doesn't exist.
has anyone seen it?


Not this again.

Some guy tried perpetuating this story for whatever reason. Why it's even mentioned in the BCDB I'll never know.

Notwithstanding this was debunked some time ago by people who dug up production information from the time the cartoon was shot, anyone who watches it and listens to the soundtrack can easily tell there was no editing.

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  zavkram  

  Directing Animator
zavkram

 Posted:
  Jun 16, 2010, 1:55 AM

Re: Droopy's Good Deed [In reply to] You Must Register Before You Can Post

Next, someone will say that the black woman is really "Mammy Two-Shoes"! Tongue

Bruce, maybe you or Ethan should edit that BCDB listing to remove the bogus scene information.

I can also do it if you want; I have editorial access to the Database listings. I just didn't want to do it without asking first...

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(This post was edited by zavkram on Jun 16, 2010, 1:57 AM)
 
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  bmode  

  Jpeg Master / Moderator
bmode

 Posted:
  Jun 17, 2010, 7:15 AM
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Re: Droopy's Good Deed [In reply to] You Must Register Before You Can Post

Thanks for asking but go right ahead, make the edits. I'm so busy these days I don't get here that much at all. Unsure

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  Uncutcartoons  

  Member

 Posted:
  Nov 23, 2010, 9:25 PM

Re: Droopy's Good Deed [In reply to] You Must Register Before You Can Post

I find it rather funny how many people I've seen get SO angry over this scene's existence(I know it doesn't btw)
 
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  zavkram  

  Directing Animator
zavkram

 Posted:
  Dec 16, 2010, 8:23 AM

Re: Droopy's Good Deed [In reply to] You Must Register Before You Can Post

If this scene actually existed it would be interesting to see.

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(This post was edited by zavkram on Dec 16, 2010, 8:27 AM)
 
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  Jeraldtoons  

  Member

 Posted:
  Jan 17, 2011, 2:08 PM

Re: Droopy's Good Deed [In reply to] You Must Register Before You Can Post

Interesting posts. Have never heard of a controversy on this cartoon before. Just for the record you all will be pleased to find out it does exist. The scene described was originally drawn in the first production reels (Spike carrying a negro lady).
To see it, you will need to locate a 35mm syndication print discarded from an old TV station, or possibly – a theater.
Have seen them on occasion at shows. You can tell by the beginning of the lead up in Good Deed showing an MGM logo in RED, not blue as the blue ones are not original but re-issues as they call them.
Good hunting!
 
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  Jeraldtoons  

  Member

 Posted:
  Jan 17, 2011, 2:14 PM

Re: Droopy's Good Deed [In reply to] You Must Register Before You Can Post

I have a few years back. Was nothing spectacular, just a typical gag from Tex as I seen it. Not sure why anyone would be surprised. If I had to make an educated guess about what Tex had in mind - I would say that Spike got the booby prize and Droopy got the hot blonde. Nothing more than that. Yup the oldies but goodies.
 
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  zavkram  

  Directing Animator
zavkram

 Posted:
  May 5, 2011, 7:30 AM

Re: Droopy's Good Deed [In reply to] You Must Register Before You Can Post


In Reply To
Just for the record you all will be pleased to find out it does exist. The scene described was originally drawn in the first production reels (Spike carrying a negro lady).
To see it, you will need to locate a 35mm syndication print discarded from an old TV station, or possibly – a theater.


Do you recall exactly when and where you saw this rare print? If this truly exists I hope someone will post a copy of it online somewhere.

Unless I'm mistaken, TV stations (back when they used telecine equipment) only had access to 16mm prints of feature films and cartoons/short-subjects; at least independent stations.

If there is an original print of this cartoon out there it is probably one of the rarest of the MGM cartoons. Most, if not all, of the original nitrate prints and camera negatives for the MGM films made prior to 1950 went up in flames some time ago

Although now it's been revealed that there are original elements for about 6-8 Tom and Jerry cartoons from the 1940's that have recently turned up.

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  Dodsworth  

  Inbetweener

 Posted:
  May 5, 2011, 9:12 PM

Re: Droopy's Good Deed [In reply to] You Must Register Before You Can Post


In Reply To
Unless I'm mistaken, TV stations (back when they used telecine equipment) only had access to 16mm prints of feature films and cartoons/short-subjects; at least independent stations.

In the pre-video days, distribution to television was in 16mm.

Dodsworth
 
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  zavkram  

  Directing Animator
zavkram

 Posted:
  May 6, 2011, 11:37 AM

Re: Droopy's Good Deed [In reply to] You Must Register Before You Can Post


In Reply To

In Reply To
Unless I'm mistaken, TV stations (back when they used telecine equipment) only had access to 16mm prints of feature films and cartoons/short-subjects; at least independent stations.

In the pre-video days, distribution to television was in 16mm.

Dodsworth


Thanks for confirming that.

Still, it doesn't make sense that Avery would originally have used a black woman in the aforementioned scene; unless he was simply maintaining the theme of all the other blackface gags in the cartoon.

Is there a printed synopsis of the cartoon from that period (from a trade journal or other publication) that might confirm the actual existence of the scene in question?

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(This post was edited by zavkram on May 6, 2011, 11:40 AM)
 
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  Dodsworth  

  Inbetweener

 Posted:
  May 20, 2011, 8:10 AM

Re: Droopy's Good Deed [In reply to] You Must Register Before You Can Post


In Reply To
Is there a printed synopsis of the cartoon from that period (from a trade journal or other publication) that might confirm the actual existence of the scene in question?

I hate writing this stuff of the top of my head, but MGM filed summaries of its cartoons to get the necessary approval. I can't remember if it was David Gerstein, but someone went through the summary for this cartoon to settle this once and for all and the gag did not exist, period.

It's pretty easy to tell just listening to the soundtrack that nothing has been edited.

Dodsworth
 
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  peterhale  

  Supervising Animator / Contributor
peterhale

 Posted:
  May 20, 2011, 10:07 AM
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Re: Droopy's Good Deed [In reply to] You Must Register Before You Can Post

Below is a copy of David Gerstein's post on GAC Forums, 24th May 2006, in reply to a comment referencing Thad Komorowski's post (elsewhere) saying that he had a copy of the animators' draft for "Droopy's Good Deed" and the "black lady" scene never existed.



To see the original forum discussion click here

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(This post was edited by peterhale on May 26, 2011, 10:09 AM)
 
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  zavkram  

  Directing Animator
zavkram

 Posted:
  May 24, 2011, 8:58 AM

Re: Droopy's Good Deed [In reply to] You Must Register Before You Can Post

I'm glad that's settled... now, let's lock this thread to prevent anyone else from perpetuating all this nonsense!

BTW, sorry guys... I just realized I never made those edits to the BCDB listing for the cartoon; I've really been swamped of late.

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