Now I thought to do this as a separate topic and not in my movie idea threads because it could also benefit Hollywood if they needed ideas for what to do with the Looney Tunes.
Now whenever Hollywood tries to revive any classic cartoons or beloved characters, sometimes it doesn't turn out well(ex. Mr. Magoo, The Flinstones, Popeye, The Three Stooges, and Space Jam). Sometimes, it comes close like with Looney Tunes Back in Action. But now, with what they are doing with LT's now(CGI shorts, The Looney Tunes Show, CGI films, etc.) I believe Hollywood isn't giving them the proper treatment they deserve.
Now my question to you guys is, if Hollywood decided to revive the Looney Tunes in like a new movie, how should they do it? What should they put in it to make it as good as the old cartoons and what should they avoid doing?
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I'm sorry, but how is this any different from your last 2 threads?
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Now whenever Hollywood tries to revive any classic cartoons or beloved characters, sometimes it doesn't turn out well(ex. Mr. Magoo, The Flinstones, Popeye, The Three Stooges, and Space Jam). Sometimes, it comes close like with Looney Tunes Back in Action.
You might have a point regarding Popeye and Mr. Magoo; I think the main problem with those movies was that they shouldn't have been made with live actors. That and the stories were pretty weak and also the characters that the aforementioned films centered on simply don't have deep enough personalities to sustain an audience's attention for more than a hour. However, Space Jam, while not considered to be among the greatest of the LT works, did well commercially. Same deal with the Farrelly Borthers' The Three Stooges. The latter can hardly be considered a flop, in fact, 3S did well enough for it's producers to consider making a sequel. You can't claim that a remake "didn't turn out well" just because you personally didn't like it.
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But now, with what they are doing with LT's now(CGI shorts, The Looney Tunes Show, CGI films, etc.) I believe Hollywood isn't giving them the proper treatment they deserve.
What's wrong with rendering the Looney Tunes in CGI? I saw the theatrical shorts "Daffy's Rhapsody" and "I Tawt I Taw a Puddy Tat" and I found them both to be enjoyable, and the CGI animation didn't take away from the quality of the shorts in the least. Seriously, what is with all of the CGI hate? Yes, CGI is overdone, particularly in feature films, but CGI is not some great evil that will one day bring the world of animation down in flames. The only reason why Hollywood keeps making CGI films is because people keep coming back to see them. If even 1 hand drawn animated feature were to bring in Toy Story or Shrek sized box office sales, then we would see a return to traditional hand drawn animation, because all of the other studios would try to repeat said film's powerful success.
I would only have a problem with CGI Looney Tunes shorts if the animation wasn't done well. I have no problem with CGI if it's good CGI. I enjoy the classic shorts as much as anyone else, but sometimes, you have to be open to new ideas. Everything can't just stay 1 way forever. Nothing in the universe has never been that way.
And again, The Looney Tunes Show is dong well with Cartoon Network's target audience. You yourself may not like TLTS, but the shows' 1st season has gotten consistently high ratings and younger viewers enjoy the show, so while TLTS may not be perfect, but it could hardly be considered a flop. Again, if something is doing well commercially and is popular among fans, you can't call something a failure solely on the grounds that you personally don't care for it. I'm not a huge fan of Disney's Phineas & Ferb, but I'm not going to sit here and say that P&F isn't doing well just it's not a favorite of mine. That's flawed logic.
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Now my question to you guys is, if Hollywood decided to revive the Looney Tunes in like a new movie, how should they do it? What should they put in it to make it as good as the old cartoons and what should they avoid doing?
Um, you've already created a couple of threads posing this question, dude. Do we really need another one? Perhaps a mod could merge these threads into a single one to save space and avoid redundancy.
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With what they are doing with LT's now(CGI shorts, The Looney Tunes Show, CGI films, etc.) I believe Hollywood isn't giving them the proper treatment they deserve.
Explain to me again how using these characters in new media and exposing them to new audiences isn't "giving them the proper treatment they deserve". Really, I'd genuinely like to know.
You do have a point regarding some of the feature film scripts (Speedy Gonzalez as a race car driver? Marvin the Martian displaced and mistaken for a Christmas present? What??), but what exactly is your beef with the CGI shorts? Do you think they were not executed well, or is your only issue with them that they're in CGI? 'Cause if it's the latter, then I don't get the hate for them. I'm one of the biggest LT fans I know, and I loved both "I Tawt I Taw a Puddy Tat" and especially "Daffy's Rhapsody". They were each true to the characters' antics and very well done, IMPO. I can understand not liking a LT project if it's a deviation from what these characters are supposed to be and do, but "Daffy's Rhapsody" and "I Tawt I Taw a Puddy Tat" were not deviations. Tell me, have you actually seen any of these shorts or is this just more "CGI is evil" rhetoric?
I think a lot of the hate that the new shorts and The Looney Tunes Show receive is more or less a knee-jerk reaction to anything presented in a form that people aren't used to. The problem with trying to innovate and move forward with the LTs is that they're so iconic that virtually anything new done with these characters is going to be met with resistance, even if it's not so bad, unless it's a 100% reiteration of the original shorts, which is both unnecessary as well as impossible.
LooneyTunian, you keep putting the question to us, now let me put the question to you: you keep echoing that everything that Warner has done with the Looney Tunes in the past 5 to 10 years and is doing with them now is wrong, so what would you consider right? What do you personally think that Warner should doing with these characters? Inquiring minds want to know.
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LooneyTunian, you keep putting the question to us, now let me put the question to you: you keep echoing that everything that Warner has done with the Looney Tunes in the past 5 to 10 years and is doing with them now is wrong, so what would you consider right? What do you personally think that Warner should doing with these characters? Inquiring minds want to know.
Well, honestly I would try to make them like the original cartoons while not copying them. Something similar to cartoons that came after the Golden Era(Like Blooper Bunny, Box Office Bunny, Carrotblanca, Invasion of the Bunny Snatchers, The Whizzard of Ow, Museum Scream, Hare and Loathing in Las Vegas, Attack of the Drones, Cock-a-Doodle Duel, etc.) where they pretty much still have witty comedy like the original cartoons but with their own ideas and not watered down like TLTS.
And my problem with the CGI shorts...while I like the songs they've had, I feel like the Looney Tunes in CGI are too detailed(with feathers) and that they should just stay in their original format--Traditional animation.
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And my problem with the CGI shorts...while I like the songs they've had, I feel like the Looney Tunes in CGI are too detailed(with feathers) and that they should just stay in their original format--Traditional animation.
That just sounds to me like you simply have a bias against CGI, since the animation seems to be the only problem that you have with the shorts, which is fine. You're entitled to your opinion, even if I don't agree with it nor understand it myself. I can understand it if you happen to prefer traditional hand drawn cartoons. Nothing wrong with that. But what I don't understand is disliking CGI just because it's CGI. As if CGI is somehow inferior to every and any other type of animation style. I've seen both good and bad examples of each (hand drawn and CG). The point that I'm trying to make here is that ideally, a cartoon should be judged by the quality of its content and not just by how it's animated.
And the only problems that I personally have with The Looney Tunes Show is the lack of slapstick and background music. I'll admit that TLTS isn't perfect, but it's hardly the worst ever take on franchise and the show has its fans (myself included), so we'll just have to agree to disagree on that.
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it (this thread) could also benefit Hollywood if they needed ideas for what to do with the Looney Tunes.
First, Hollywood has people who get paid millions of dollars to come up with ideas. They don't need to troll public message boards to get ideas. Also, as I mentioned before, Hollywood executives, directors, writers and busy CEOs seldom, if ever, visit message boards, and professional writers and directors are typically discouraged from reading ideas submitted by fans, so this thread is basically a copy of your previous 2 threads.
I have to agree with Starburst; this thread is basically a copy of your previous 2 spec-script threads and should probably either be merged with 1 or both of them into a single thread or just closed, as this discussion is redundant and serves no real purpose. Perhaps a moderator would like to merge them?
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