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Apr 2, 2008, 6:35 PM
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Hoyt Curtin Music
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Anyone know where I can find CD's / downloads on Hoyt Curtin music that was provided for HB cartoons??
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Animator
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Apr 2, 2008, 11:19 PM
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Try eBay.com & look for "Pic-a-Nic Basket" (spell it right). This was a 4 CD set of Hanna-Barbera classic music. There are extra long cues for Top Cat, Flintstones & Jetsons music.
There are brief non-Curtin cues for Quick Draw McGraw/Snooper & Blabber/Augie Doggie as well.
If not on eBay, try Amazon.com...but expect to shell out some money.
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Member
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Apr 4, 2008, 7:51 PM
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Thanks!
What about music that was used on Jonny Quest and some of the action /adventure series during that time.
Also what about Ted Nichols, anything out there??
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Animator
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Apr 5, 2008, 12:16 AM
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Yes I believe it does have JQ. I am not familiar with the difference in Curtin's & Nichols's cues.
If you go to Amazon.com , type in "pic-a-nic basket" (in quotes), there should be not only some up for sale, but also the list of trax. I once had a printout of it.
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Supervising Animator / Contributor
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Apr 5, 2008, 5:46 AM
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I got that CD set off eBay, cheap. I really like it. My favorite parts are how it includes the old John Seely cues from "Quick Draw McGraw," the nearly-complete library of Flintstones background music cues (!) and a good selection of sound effects from their library (but it can't hold a candle to the professional H-B sound FX library from Sound Ideas, which I also own)
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Newbie
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May 16, 2008, 6:31 PM
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 In regard to The Quick Draw McGraw Show! Hoyt Curtin was still the Music Director on the cartoons regardless of
John Seely's cues or who's cues. Also, Ted Nichols worked under Hoyt Curtin so when you speak of him you're speaking of Hoyt Curtin. Also, I hope in time the matter regarding "The Quick Draw McGraw Show" will be settled and we can have it released on DVD.
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Animator
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May 16, 2008, 7:29 PM
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Well, I believe Curtin wrote the theme songs for all shows in that time, but I am kinda surprised that the Capitol/Seely et al. stock music was used with his OK. It's like night & day.
But again, money had to have been an issue, as HB was toying with this new idea of limited animation especially for TV. After all, all voice actors were male at that time, even when a woman's voice was needed.
That "other forum" I think said that the Quick Draw DVD looks like a no-go, especially when the other early HB shows on DVD bombed at the cash register....
I have really grown to appreciate the Quick Draw character over time. He is my fave HB character overall.
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Supervising Animator / Contributor
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May 17, 2008, 7:04 AM
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That "other forum" I think said that the Quick Draw DVD looks like a no-go, especially when the other early HB shows on DVD bombed at the cash register....
Yeah? From what I heard, the recent Looney Tunes Golden Collections have been bombing at the cash register as well, especially the last one thanks to a certain Pixar movie about talking rats.
Another reason why "Quick Draw" might not make it to DVD is due to music rights. The 1959-1961 episodes used the John Seely/Capitol stock music library cues in them, same ones like on "Gumby" and "Ren & Stimpy" used. And then there's those infamous six Looney Tunes cartoons ("Weasel While You Work," "A Bird in a Bonnett," "Hook, Line and Stinker," "Pre-Hysterical Hare," "Gopher Broke" and "Hip Hip Hurry!") that used the Capitol stock music that everybody's dissing. And I have to agree that music didn't help with those cartoons. But if you look at a Gumby cartoon, you'll see they are paced differently and more "surreal," so the John Seely music fits really well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gv2rAlsFHqA
Actually, the music at the beginning of this particular episode ("Mysterious Fires") when Gumby morphs and then shows the knight that fire truck, the music there can also be found on the "Hanna-Barbera's Pick-A-Nick Basket of Cartoon Classics" CD on the Augie Doggie underscore track. Similarly, some of the music on the Foghorn Leghorn short "Weasel While You Work" was also on the CD set (the music heard under the cartoon's title card, the music when Foggy goes sledding and then skiing) on the "Snooper and Blabber" underscore track. The theme often heard in "A Bird in a Bonnett" is a speeded-up version of a Capitol music cue that's also found on the Snooper/Blabber underscore track on the CD. And the music heard under the title card to "Gopher Broke" is on the CD set as well, in the "Quick Draw McGraw" underscore track. If the people at WB decide to release one or two of these 'toons to DVD yet (with the exception of my two films there, the others have not been released on home video AT ALL), I hope they can secure the music rights problem so we don't have a recap of the 2002 Gumby DVDs.
And looking at the 1961-1963 Quick Draw episodes, I wonder why Hoyt Curtin couldn't have just written some original Western-sounding music? The score was mainly made up of old 1960 Flintstones and Yogi Bear music cues. Then again, many of H-B's music cues at the time came from the Flintstones. The first music track in the Yogi Bear underscore (the jolly-sounding one) I recall was first used on The Flintstones before making its way to Yogi Bear.
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