Supervising Animator
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Apr 10, 2008, 2:42 PM
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Who is this?
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This picture is from Mama's New Hat (which is included in the Marx Brothers: A Day At The Races DVD). Does anybody know who this lady is in the mirror?
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Research Guru / Moderator
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Apr 10, 2008, 2:51 PM
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She has more than a passing resemblance to actress Veronica Lake, known as "The Girl with the Peek-a-boo Bang."
Lake had a very tragic life after her brief stardom, dying at 53 after appearing as a mad Nazi scientist in the God-awful Flesh Feast (1970).
Jay Ward made the occasional "Veronica Lake" reference when showing a lake in his cartoons.
www.imdb.com/name/nm0000043/bio
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Intern
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Apr 11, 2008, 2:07 AM
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I'm a Veronica lake fan. I'd say the woman in the mirror looks more like Tallula Bankhead. When she was young, of course...
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Intern
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Apr 11, 2008, 2:11 AM
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Further, A Day At The Races was made in 1937. Veronica's first bit part was in 1939, and she wasn't well-known until she made Sullivan's Travels, in 1941. So, I don't see how it could be Veronica.
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Intern
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Apr 11, 2008, 2:12 AM
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Mama's new Hat was made in 1939.
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Inbetweener
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Apr 11, 2008, 9:13 AM
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It might also be Greta Garbo, a similar caricature of Miss Garbo appears in the all star Disney short; “Mickey’s Gala Premiere” (1933).
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Supervising Animator
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Apr 11, 2008, 12:28 PM
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It might also be Greta Garbo, a similar caricature of Miss Garbo appears in the all star Disney short; “Mickey’s Gala Premiere” (1933).
That could be her. Here is a picture from Mother Goose Goes Hollywood (1938) to compare.
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Key Animator
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Apr 11, 2008, 2:03 PM
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I was going to say Mae West but...
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Thank God for kids who love obscure things-Lee Hazelwood (1929-2007)
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Intern
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Apr 12, 2008, 7:30 PM
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I agree, it might be Garbo, but it looks like Tallulah too. Here's a link to a Tallulah photo:
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3530659840/nm0000845
My computer skills are minimal. If someone wants to post the photo, please do!
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Animator
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Apr 18, 2008, 11:27 PM
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Re the See-Saw Margery Daw frame above....
I'm 48 years old & honestly I never heard of that nursery rhyme. Had to Google it.....Wikipedia has an article on it.
What was the deal with Edward G. Robinson on the seesaw?? That had to be a hoot. Was this an Avery classic?
I thought I saw this cartoon way back when....possibly this scene was edited?
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Lead Animator / Contributor
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Apr 18, 2008, 11:49 PM
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I actually have heard of that rhyme: it appeared in an H-B comic book in which Pixie & Dixie were playing on a see-saw. Go figure! This is of course is a memory that provokes other memories: Hasbro toys, orange Ne-Hi, Dion's "Runaround Sue," (I have too much fun dating myself!). Anyway, I'll google the rhyme and see what's what. The frame grab is a hoot. Someday, a new generation will wonder who these people were, if they don't already.
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Supervising Animator
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Apr 19, 2008, 12:31 PM
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Re the See-Saw Margery Daw frame above....
I'm 48 years old & honestly I never heard of that nursery rhyme. Had to Google it.....Wikipedia has an article on it.
What was the deal with Edward G. Robinson on the seesaw?? That had to be a hoot. Was this an Avery classic?
I thought I saw this cartoon way back when....possibly this scene was edited?
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I've never heard of See-Saw Margery Daw either. Until I saw Mother Goose Goes Hollywood which, by the way, is Disney (but very un-Disney like, and one of my favorite Disney cartoons). As far as I know, the cartoon is only available on Walt Disney Treasures: More Silly Symphonies. I also saw it on t.v a couple of times some years back and I remember seeing that scene.
(This post was edited by cartoonfan4ever on Apr 19, 2008, 12:48 PM)
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Animator
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Apr 19, 2008, 9:45 PM
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Well, that splains it, Lucy! I thought the frame grab was from a WB cartoon....after all, it has all the earmarks (eye-marks?) of something Avery woulda done.....didn't he do "A Gander at Mother Goose" or something by WB in the late 30s? and weren't pages turned? (like "Jack & Jill went up the hill...." Jack: "The heck with the water!")
You're right...definitely doesn't look Disney... Too hilariously satirical for them.
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Supervising Animator
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Apr 20, 2008, 11:54 AM
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Well, that splains it, Lucy! I thought the frame grab was from a WB cartoon....after all, it has all the earmarks (eye-marks?) of something Avery woulda done.....didn't he do "A Gander at Mother Goose" or something by WB in the late 30s? and weren't pages turned? (like "Jack & Jill went up the hill...." Jack: "The heck with the water!")
You're right...definitely doesn't look Disney... Too hilariously satirical for them.
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Yes Avery did a hillarious cartoon called "A Gander at Mother Goose" complete with turning pages. I might have seen this Disney cartoon once shown right before a show called "Amazing Animals" that I watched on Saturdays(and maybe?) Sundays. If the short included a Katherine Hepburn like Little Bo Peep continuously searching for her lost sheep throughout the short than I have definately seen it.
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Supervising Animator
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Apr 20, 2008, 12:18 PM
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If the short included a Katherine Hepburn like Little Bo Peep continuously searching for her lost sheep throughout the short than I have definately seen it. Yep, That's the one.
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