Here's a thread on how to know who animated what, in early HB. Frankly, anything after 1963, I have no way of knowing all of them, but you can feel free to add.
(1) Kenneth Muse---He animated most of the "pilot" or "intro" episodes of series (but not all). His was basic straightforward animation, nothing fancy....when the mouth moves, you see one set of top teeth (like one long tooth) and tongue shows a slit in the middle.
(2) Lew(is) Marshall----His animation is easy to spot....when the mouth moves, the nose of the character bobs up and down.
(3) Carlo Vinci---the "wild man" of HB. His was more limited animation than the others. Arms and legs twist when the character moves. The hair swings back and forth. The mouth movements are the most telling. Even when the mouth is closed, the character looks like he/she is snarling. The teeth grit often. Another site said, when you hear Yogi Bear doing the famous "boink walk" (with sound effect), that's Carlo.
(4) George Nicholas----prominent tongue, no slit.
(5) Ed Love---early on in his HB work, the mouth showed "individual teeth"....but I think from Top Cat on, he may have been told to ditch the teeth thing. I had no idea that Ed Love did certain TC episodes, because I was thinking "Where were the teeth?"
(6) Jack Ozark---seemingly he only did Loopy de Loop & some Flintstones. The eyes look sad all the time, even when the characters look happy!
(7) Michael Lah----very limited mouth movement...hard to explain here. He may have been the one to fill in animation in spots on early HB, despite one other animator getting all the credit---but don't quote me here.
Any other animators' traits to log here, or any corrections to mine?
The only 2 full Lah-animated HB shorts I know are "Pie Pirates" w/ Yogi, and "Lion Tamer Huck" w/ Huck. Huck's teeth are totally weird in that one.
I saw a Quick Draw McGraw show with an interstitial that had very limited animation, and it coulda been Lah. It was the same limited cheap-o animation I mentioned in the "Little Bird Mouse" thread.
Anyone want to try Don Patterson? How about Laverne Harding?
Looking at the other Snooper cartoons, I see Gerard Baldwin, Hicks Lokey, Ed Love, Brad Case and John Boersema creditted with animation. I didn't realise Baldwin worked for Hanna-Barbera.
Gerard Baldwin was a long-time HB veteran. He even contributed to "The Smurfs" in the 80's. In fact, the character Prince(later King) Gerard was probably named after him.
Gerard Baldwin only did a handful of shorts for early HB, however, yes I can tell a Baldwin-animated toon. The mouth is very "rubbery" when moving.
He did "Bear for Punishment" & "Bare Faced Bear" (I think the title was) with Yogi, "Six Gun Spook" & "Doggone Prairie Dog" for Quick Draw, and one I know for Snooper, where they mistook a monkey for a human in a supermarket (forget the title). All were 1959.
Baldwin did a lotta "non-Gamma" animation for Jay Ward, including a few General Mills commercials. I can tell by those same mouth movements. He animated a few Dudleys.
As for John Boersema, all I know is that he jumped on HB when they added the "Hanna-Barbera" logo on the title cards in 1961-62 (along with that great Curtin music of that time).
I cannot really tell a Boersema animation. I thought the Top Cat ep "Maharajah of Pookajee" ended with some Boersema, but I think it was the toothless Ed Love animation...so what do I know?
Last night I watched "Pied Piper Pipe" w/ Pixie & Dixie on YouTube....the animation, especially when Pixie & Dixie are in their mouse hole, looked unusual, especially their mouths.
Went to BCDB.com & it said that Gerard Baldwin animated this. I see no cause to doubt this (the YouTube did not have the full credits), but apparently Baldwin changed his style slightly from his 1959 HB stuff---I think that this was his only 1960 entry. Guess I'll watch it again, to look for more rubbery mouth movement.
CD, this is from Good Mouse Keeping which BCDB says is by Nicholas. Note the slit on the tongue.. but only on the bottom of the tongue. The top of the tongue is never drawn with a slit that I can see.
CD was talking about the Ed Love teeth. The other thing you'll notice about Ed is he has a pile of different head positions during dialogue, especially visible in single head shots. Here are just five (I think I counted seven) head positions in a bit of dialogue from Sour Puss. You can see the two-tooth CD mentioned. A couple of other animators used this, too; Lew Marshall did it on occasion.
Ed's stuff is always interesting to watch because he animates some of the position changes on ones, others on twos, some on threes just to make it look a little different.
Well, yesterday i was watching half the Flintstones with Rafiki and well i pretend and kidded around the animation for the episode Kenneth Muse (there are actually more in his style than just the drawing style, one of the earmarks to show that it was truly him in only one way or another for me was, even in limited Jay Ward/Ramjet style animation, also a specific fluid bouncy style of movement not to mention it moves at 24fps too) was credited for was actually done in Korea at Studio SEK and i been thinking that the animation in the H-B cartoons from the beginning (1957) from the studio was always farmed out, heck the jerky nose bobbing traits and earmarks that Lewis Marshall is credited for are most defiantly and are exactly staples and earmarks of Australian animation (even right down to the motion lines of fluid scenes), leaving me to believe the Artansa Film Studios of Sydney, Australia was involved and that it was actually the real studio H-B bought out for H-B Australia to animate their shows for low budget.
And from watching a few Jetsons, i must say the work and earmarks that are usually credited to George Nicholas are actually really the work and execution of Halas and Bachelor animator Harold Whitaker (see Hamilton the Musical Elephant) and exactly stuff credited to Bill Keil is actually the work of another animator at Halas and Batchelor (i really don't know his name BUT it's exactly the same guy who animated the intro bit to Charley's dialogue "A grand way to start the day, bit different from what it used to be" in New Town) and also the same applies to work credited to Geroge Gopper (might be John Halas himself, who knows).
And anything else is really actually all just more than likely to be the work of overseas animation sweatshops rather than the artists credited here, because ever since that unnecessary criticism of Don Williams for being credited for doing the rather ugly animation stuff in Queen Bee for a Day and Batty Bat, I've been told and then realized that it is not fair and not even respectful and nice at all to criticize any animators for the work they did later on in life (let alone limited TV animation like these) and then i realized that essentially TV animation (with exceptions of course) have always been outscored (even places to places in the States, not in house).
Uh, Oh looks like i gotta get going for now, but alas, keep everything in the post in mind that i was ONLY KIDDING and JOKING!, please don't take this seriously and instead take a joke like here and I know that what i said earlier is NOT the truth at all to you guys and even behind the scenes.
However, i still believe the truth that Gerard Baldwin and Ed Love doing the animation in the H-B cartoons in the States at some point.
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