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  MrCleveland  

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MrCleveland

 Posted:
  May 20, 2012, 7:05 AM

     Re: Looney Tunes:Back in Business(Spec Script idea) [In reply to]  


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Well, here's something I'd like to do. Write only 1 screenplay, make the movie, and then move on with my life. Basically what Harper Lee did with To Kill A Mockingbird. And about my name carrying weight, that's why when I'm done writing my screenplay(after I get all of the premise fully completed), I'd like to register it with the WGA so it could gain some focus.


If only it were that simple.

Everything comes back to the same point: you don't own the Looney Tunes characters, you're not a professional screenwriter nor do you work or know anyone within the entertainment industry. Without experience or connections under your belt, you're not going to get your foot in the door, let alone get a big budget movie made, especially one starring characters from a world-famous franchise that you're in no way affiliated with. WB isn't going to give some unknown with no writing experience who's never professionally worked on anything in his life millions of dollars to write a script for a Looney Tunes movie just because he or she claims to have a "strong passion" for the characters. Sorry, that's just not going to happen. All of the "strong passion" in the world doesn't equate to writing experience or professional pull.

Without experience, clout or connections, your script is just a work of fan fiction, and most professionals within the industry don't take the time to read ideas submitted by fans, let alone turn them into fleshed out projects. In fact, most writers, producers and directors are actually dissuaded from reading fan ideas. Registering your idea with the WGA isn't going to get it any notice because no one knows who you are. Lots of people have ideas for stories involving popular characters, but very few of them go beyond fan fiction. The wastebaskets and shredders of studio bigwigs all across Hollywood are stuffed with ideas from fans who have great ideas telling them what they should do with their characters.

You could easily just put your idea on a fanfic site like Fanfiction.net, but if you're really serious about getting this project made, you're going to have to go through the necessary channels and take the necessary steps.

First, sharpen your writing skills. Judging by your posts, your literary prowess could use some brushing up, no offense. Take some creative writing courses and start working on your own ideas. Perfect your talents. While you're doing that, it also wouldn't hurt to study up on your subject: learn the actual history of the Looney Tunes franchise, the origins, ins and outs of the characters and the people behind the shorts. That would help your idea a lot. A good primer to start you off on understanding the LT franchise is That's All, Folks! A Tribute to Warner Bros. Animation by Steve Schneider. It's an entertaining and enlightening read.

Then, see if you can get a job within the industry. Maybe begin interning at Warner Bros., learn the trade, get a mentor who can train you. Then after you earn some stroke and have some genuine experience under your belt, then maybe you can get your idea made. It's not as easy as going into WB studios and saying, "I have this great idea for a Looney Tunes movie. Let's go make it!" Like Damfine said, you have to crawl before you can walk.


I've actually took a Media Arts Class last semester, right now I'm at the crossroads in my plans of having a Bachelor of Arts Degree...I'm trying to get Financial Aid for CSU, but I need at least 30 Credit Hours for Cleveland State. I may just take classes that would improve my career...screenplay writing.

My next project is a short film called "It's a Wonderful City", which is a take-off of "It's a Wonderful Life"...except this guy wishes that Cleveland didn't exist.

But I would like to help you out with this Looney Tunes Script.Wink

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  LooneyTunian  

  Inbetweener

 Posted:
  May 30, 2012, 8:58 AM

     Re: Looney Tunes:Back in Business(Spec Script idea) [In reply to]  

Hey guys! Sorry it's taken me so long to respond!

Well Starburst, I do know some people in the business as I've mentioned Jerry Beck. He gave me advice saying "Unless you are planning to write a spec script for the enjoyment of it, there is little chance of Warner Bros. buying an unsolicted script from anyone outside their studio. I'm not trying to sound discouraging, but based on my knowledge of how Hollywood works - you face a longshot." He also said he was too busy at the moment to help me, but he wants me to start writing it and then show it to him. So basically I should have said this towards the beginning, I am doing this just for fun, but it wouldn't hurt to see if WB is interested.

And I have done plenty of research. For books I currently own Looney Tunes:The Ultimate Visual Guide, The Looney Tunes Treasury, The 100 Greatest Looney Tunes Cartoons, and The ACME Catalog (with plans to get The Looney Tunes Songbook, Looney Tunes and Merrie Melodies: A Complete Illustrated Guide to the Warner Bros. Cartoons, Warner Bros. Animation Art, and That's all folks!: The Art of Warner Bros. Animation- a book you suggested. Wink ) As for DVD's and Videos I have the Looney Tunes:Golden Collection vol. 1-6, Looney Tunes:Platinum Collection vol. 1, The Essential Bugs Bunny, The Essential Daffy Duck, Looney Tunes: Movie Collection, The Looney, Looney, Looney Bugs Bunny Movie; Daffy Duck's Fantastic Island on VHS, Daffy Duck's Quackbusters, Who Framed Roger Rabbit(in my mind this counts because of the Looney Tunes appearing), Space Jam on Blu-Ray, Tweety's High Flying Adventure, Looney Tunes: Back in Action, and Bah Humduck! A Looney Tunes Christmas. So, yeah. I'm taking this a little seriously.

Guys, I'd like to thank you for the advice you've given me at how to become a better writer, but now I'd like to go back to what I wanted these threads to be: a brainstorm thread. Basically, I wanted to see what you guys think my idea should be about and we all come up with fun ideas for what should be in my screenplay, and if you guys are willing I'd like you guys to continue helping me in any capacity to make sure my idea is perfect. Wink
 
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  SpaceDemon  

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SpaceDemon

 Posted:
  May 31, 2012, 6:46 AM
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     Re: Looney Tunes:Back in Business(Spec Script idea) [In reply to]  

If you're just writing this script for fun, then it's no big deal. It's only if you intend to make a profit from your ideal using characters that you don't own that complicates matters.

As for brainstorming for your idea, I'm personally done, but anyone else is welcome to help you out if they'd like to.

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  zavkram  

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zavkram

 Posted:
  Jun 2, 2012, 5:56 AM

     Re: Looney Tunes:Back in Business(Spec Script idea) [In reply to]  

I would like to suggest locking this thread; as many of us have already advised you on how to proceed with your project. What do the rest of the mods here think?

The ball's in your court now... stop talking about it and DO it.

I agree with SB's advice about doing extensive research about the studio, its characters, and it's classic cartoons.

When you finish your screenplay you're certainly welcome to post excepts here in a new thread; in order to get feedback.

Just be sure to get it copyright-protected and to include the appropriate copyright disclaimers in your posts

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(This post was edited by zavkram on Jun 2, 2012, 6:05 AM)
 
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  LooneyTunian  

  Inbetweener

 Posted:
  Jun 2, 2012, 10:56 AM

     Re: Looney Tunes:Back in Business(Spec Script idea) [In reply to]  

Well Zavkram, I would like to someday have this thread locked(or even erased to not have other people steal my idea), but I feel like not all of my premise is complete(for example: the villain, the biggest fan, what the Toons should do on the tour, subplot for Porky, etc.) and I'd like for this to be open so other people can brainstorm ideas with me before I start writing if it's alright with you. When I have all the ideas I need to start writing, then I'd like this locked if it's alright with you.
 
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  Starburst  

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Starburst

 Posted:
  Jun 2, 2012, 4:15 PM
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     Re: Looney Tunes:Back in Business(Spec Script idea) [In reply to]  


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Well Zavkram, I would like to someday have this thread locked(or even erased to not have other people steal my idea)


That would only be an issue if a) the characters in your story were your own creations, and b) you were planning to make a profit off of your idea, but you've clearly indicated that this is just for your own amusement, so therefore it doesn't matter if someone wants to attempt a similar idea. Since you don't own these characters nor have any copyright on any of the creative properties involved, any other aspiring writer has as much right to write a fan script for the Looney Tunes as you do.

If you were really worried about someone else stealing your idea, then you shouldn't have posted it on a public message board in the first place.


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but I feel like not all of my premise is complete(for example: the villain, the biggest fan, what the Toons should do on the tour, subplot for Porky, etc.) and I'd like for this to be open so other people can brainstorm ideas with me before I start writing if it's alright with you. When I have all the ideas I need to start writing, then I'd like this locked if it's alright with you.


Many of us here have already given you plenty of ideas to at least start a rough draft on, and no offense, but it doesn't seem so much as you're working with anyone here as it is other posters handing you suggestions and you asking for still more ideas. Again, this is YOUR story idea, not anyone else's; at some point you're going to have to stop asking for help with your project and actually start writing it yourself.

If anyone here volunteers or has volunteered to assist you in this endeavor, the maybe you could communicate with said member(s) via PM from now on.

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(This post was edited by Starburst on Jun 2, 2012, 4:57 PM)
 
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  SpaceDemon  

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SpaceDemon

 Posted:
  Jun 3, 2012, 8:27 AM
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     Re: Looney Tunes:Back in Business(Spec Script idea) [In reply to]  


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I would like to someday have this thread locked(or even erased to not have other people steal my idea)


Well, since you don't own the Looney Tunes characters, you can't legally do anything with your story except post it on your website or on some public site like Fan Fiction.net., so someone stealing your idea is hardly an issue. You can't post something on a public forum, asking people who you don't know for ideas and then be worried about someone stealing your ideas. What's the point of even creating a thread like this if you just want it deleted?

And yeah, I'll have to dog pile on this as well. I think that this thread has served it's purpose. You've been given plenty of feedback and suggestions, but no one is going to brainstorm with you because it's not our story. You're the one who wants to do this. At some point you'll have to stop asking for suggestions and just do something. If you're looking for inspiration, read books. Watch TV. Go to the movies. Meet people. Experience life. That's how you get ideas.

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(This post was edited by SpaceDemon on Jun 3, 2012, 8:33 AM)
 
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  SpaceDemon  

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SpaceDemon

 Posted:
  Jun 3, 2012, 6:44 PM
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     Re: Looney Tunes:Back in Business(Spec Script idea) [In reply to]  

Sorry for the double post, but I wanted to add this part, and it's too late edit my previous post:

Well, since you don't own the Looney Tunes characters, you can't legally do anything with your story except post it on your website or on some public site like Fan Fiction.net, so someone stealing your idea is hardly an issue. ADDITION: Hollywood writers and directors rarely (if ever) visit public message boards, and are encouraged not to read ideas submitted by fans, so the only people who would conceivably steal your idea are other fans who, like yourself, have no legal ownership of anything LT related and likewise couldn't do anything with the idea other than post it on some fanfic site. However, you could modify your story to feature original characters of your own creation, but then you would indeed need to copyright your work so that no one could claim any of your creations as their own.

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(This post was edited by SpaceDemon on Jun 3, 2012, 6:47 PM)
 
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  LooneyTunian  

  Inbetweener

 Posted:
  Jun 4, 2012, 12:16 AM

     Re: Looney Tunes:Back in Business(Spec Script idea) [In reply to]  

Okay, I know I don't own the characters. All I'm saying is, I'd rather have someone else come up with a similar idea to mine and Starburst's instead of completely ripping us off. Now I feel like I'm repeating myself-I know this is my idea. But I like to think that it's a fan effort and it's getting frustrating that you guys want to back out and not help me.

And yes, I will start writing it soon. I just need a little more help with the following and then I shall start:
1. What kind of important subplot should Porky Pig have? I'd like for it to be of important significance like the Lola Bunny subplot relating to her history as a "token girl."
2.I plan on having a major subplot relating to the rivalry between Bugs Bunny and Daffy Duck that goes to "new heights." But, I'm having a tough time figuring out how that should play out. What do you guys think?
3.I do plan on having the hotshot producer being the main villain with him trying to sabotage the tour. However, I'm having trouble figuring out what his motives and actions would be wanting to sabotage the tour.
4. What should the name of the tour be(something catchy like some of the film complications' names for example: The Looney,Looney,Looney Bugs Bunny) and what should they do on this tour? So far, I have they do the "This Is It" performance and they do sketches like SNL does basically doing what they did in the old cartoons.
5. I have decided to include a fan character in my idea. However, what kind of fan should he/she be? How old should he/she be? Should the fan be male or female?
6.I don't really want to tie Baby Looney Tunes and Loonatics Unleashed into my idea, so what other ways could the hotshot producer try to make the Toons "hip" and "toyetic"? I have a similar idea(less inappropriate) to what Robot Chicken did in one sketch that had Bugs rapping against Elmer to try to "appeal to a new crowd."
7.Which living celebrities would you guys like to see in my idea? I know you guys already said the studio would be in charge of the cameo list but really--who in your wildest dreams would you guys love to see in a Looney Tunes movie?

Once I basically have all of these figured out, then I can start writing. And again, I'm trying to have fun with this idea. Smile
 
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  SpaceDemon  

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SpaceDemon

 Posted:
  Jun 4, 2012, 6:52 AM
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     Re: Looney Tunes:Back in Business(Spec Script idea) [In reply to]  


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Okay, I know I don't own the characters. All I'm saying is, I'd rather have someone else come up with a similar idea to mine and Starburst's instead of completely ripping us off.


That statement doesn't make sense. You'd have to have a complete idea before anyone could "rip you off". And again, if you're that concerned with people taking your ideas, then you probably shouldn't be posting them on a public forum, where anyone can read them.


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Now I feel like I'm repeating myself-I know this is my idea.


Then why do you keep asking other people to come up with ideas for it? Like I said in my previous post, this isn't how to get ideas. At some point, you'll have to simply come up with your own ideas. As previously stated, no one else is going to do it for you. You claim to be passionate about this idea, then why not stop relying on other people and just get to work on it?


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But I like to think that it's a fan effort


Why would you think that? You just said in your last sentence that you acknowledge the fact that it's your idea and not anyone else's. Why are you now assuming that this is a "fan effort" (whatever that means) when no one offered to do this with you?

and it's getting frustrating that you guys want to back out and not help me.


Likewise, it's kind of annoying how you continually ask for help when you've been given plenty of good suggestions already. And not to nitpick, but it's not "backing out" when no one else ever signed on to this in the 1st place. If someone else wants to do this with you, they're more than welcome to, but I'm personally done coming up with ideas for this because it's seems evident that you're never going to come up with anything on your own as long as people keep doing stuff for you.

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(This post was edited by SpaceDemon on Jun 4, 2012, 7:45 AM)
 
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  Starburst  

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Starburst

 Posted:
  Jun 4, 2012, 7:35 AM
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     Re: Looney Tunes:Back in Business(Spec Script idea) [In reply to]  


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All I'm saying is, I'd rather have someone else come up with a similar idea to mine and Starburst's instead of completely ripping us off.


Ah, no. There is no "us", kid. I thought I made it abundantly clear a few pages ago that I'm not collaborating with you on this. All I did was give a suggestion or 2 and you decided to run with them. That's all. I don't mind if someone chooses to adapt this idea for their own ends, because I have no emotional ties to it, and I never once said that I was going to start working with you on this full-time.


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But I like to think that it's a fan effort and it's getting frustrating that you guys want to back out and not help me.


The wha...? You create a thread saying you have an idea for a story and then you expect everyone else to do all of the prep work for you. How exactly is that a "fan effort"? What precisely are you contributing to this idea? And nobody's backing out of anything; lots of people here have already helped you; we've done our part and now it's up to you to get started writing.

The only person whom I recall actually volunteering to assist you in this endeavor is Mr. Cleveland at the top of this page. If that offer still stands, then the 2 of you should try to work something out, but nobody else here agreed to write this story with you, so no one here is backing out. If anything, it seems to me that you're the one trying to back out of this; everyone else has been giving you ideas and suggestions whereas you haven't done a lick of work. What exactly have you been doing while we've been handing you all these suggestions?


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1. What kind of important subplot should Porky Pig have? I'd like for it to be of important significance like the Lola Bunny subplot relating to her history as a "token girl."
2.I plan on having a major subplot relating to the rivalry between Bugs Bunny and Daffy Duck that goes to "new heights." But, I'm having a tough time figuring out how that should play out. What do you guys think?
3.I do plan on having the hotshot producer being the main villain with him trying to sabotage the tour. However, I'm having trouble figuring out what his motives and actions would be wanting to sabotage the tour.
4. What should the name of the tour be(something catchy like some of the film complications' names for example: The Looney,Looney,Looney Bugs Bunny) and what should they do on this tour? So far, I have they do the "This Is It" performance and they do sketches like SNL does basically doing what they did in the old cartoons.
5. I have decided to include a fan character in my idea. However, what kind of fan should he/she be? How old should he/she be? Should the fan be male or female?
6.I don't really want to tie Baby Looney Tunes and Loonatics Unleashed into my idea, so what other ways could the hotshot producer try to make the Toons "hip" and "toyetic"? I have a similar idea(less inappropriate) to what Robot Chicken did in one sketch that had Bugs rapping against Elmer to try to "appeal to a new crowd."
7.Which living celebrities would you guys like to see in my idea? I know you guys already said the studio would be in charge of the cameo list but really--who in your wildest dreams would you guys love to see in a Looney Tunes movie?


1 and 2: I think you're making this thing much more complicated than it needs to be and trying to have too many simultaneous plots and subplots going on at once. Do you really need all additional this stuff going on?

3: Why does he need to sabotage the tour? He's already caused them to quit.

4: Do you really our help with this? Just come up with a name. And if you have an idea of what kind of material they're going to trot out, then why not start writing it?

5: Again, can you really not decide that on your own?

6: Once again, if you have an idea, write it up already. Stop dragging your feet.

7: It doesn't matter, as long as the LTs are funny and in character.

Really, these are all things YOU could and can come up with if you would just stop being afraid to get your hands dirty. At some point you're going to have to employ some good old fashioned trial and error in order to see which ideas work and which ones don't. You can keep asking all day, but at some point you're going to have to start doing. There is no other way to create.

All I'm hearing from you is a bunch of excuses, and if we keep filling in all the blanks for you, then you'll never actually get around to writing this story. Well, I'm personally done enabling you. I think the best way to help you is to lock this thread or for everyone else to just stop posting in it, so you'll finally get the incentive to spread your wings and get to work on this story on your own. There's a difference between asking for assistance and expecting others to all of the work. We can't help you if you're not going to help yourself.


Seriously, stop making excuses, stop expecting other people to do your work for you and get cracking.

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(This post was edited by Starburst on Jun 4, 2012, 9:29 AM)
 
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  cartoonfan4ever  

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cartoonfan4ever

 Posted:
  Jun 4, 2012, 2:26 PM

     Re: Looney Tunes:Back in Business(Spec Script idea) [In reply to]  

I'd like to make another suggestion (I don't remember if this has been suggested before). Instead of jumping into a full length movie, how about writing this as a short. About 30 minutes long. That way, you can think of the story and the characters without the pressure of making it too complex. When you're finished writing it, you can always expand the script.

One more suggestion. When you can't think of a title, a name, or a basic plot, then it's time to write out a list and choose from that list. For example, the name of the tour. Make a list of possible names and choose the best one that fits. Another example is the celebrities. Make a list of who you would like to see and choose the person that best fits the movie/short.

There are things that you really need to do on your own because that is how you learn. Through trial and error. It won't be perfect the first time and there will be a lot of editing and changing in the script. You can certainly change what you want as often as you need to in this project. You really don't have to have everything figured out in order to start.

Good luck. Cool
 
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  LooneyTunian  

  Inbetweener

 Posted:
  Jun 4, 2012, 6:54 PM

     Re: Looney Tunes:Back in Business(Spec Script idea) [In reply to]  

You guys want to know why I don't come up with my own ideas? I have Writer's Block and I lack very much creativity. That's always been the case when I've come up with an idea, I need to depend on other people to help me. And the one time I actually come up with a good idea, I can't come up with other ideas because...to be honest...THEY SUCK. So that's why I depend on you guys so much.
 
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  SpaceDemon  

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SpaceDemon

 Posted:
  Jun 4, 2012, 9:26 PM
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     Re: Looney Tunes:Back in Business(Spec Script idea) [In reply to]  

Perhaps you have writers' block, or perhaps you just haven't yet been inspired to do anything yet. You can't force yourself to be inspired. Inspiration finds you. It may be necessary to back off of your idea for a little until while you see, hear or read something that sparks off an idea. It's not a good idea to be completely dependent on others for your creativity. Ultimately, it has to come from you.

But I will offer this: I think that you should forget about the Lola subplot, at least until you actually have some way to go with it, because it doesn't seem to be going anywhere. Ditto for the Porky subplot, since you don't have anything for it except the desire to have one. Really, you don't need to have all these different plots going on in this one idea, unless their going to intersect somehow.

Regarding the bit about Bugs and Daffy's rivalry "reaching new heights", it seems kind of irrelevant to the plot about the reunion tour, and personally I'm tired of seeing Daffy and Bugs being at odds with one another. I'd to see more of the 2 of them being friends, albeit with a somewhat edgy relationship.

One problem as I see it is that you know precisely what you don't want for the LT characters (everything that's been done with the characters in the last 10 years), but you don't know what it is that you do want for them, but I can't help you with that because I don't hate everything that's been done with LT recently. I like The Looney Tunes Show and actually thought that Looney Tunes: Back in Action wasn't as bad as people say.

I recommend reading the book A Whack on the Side of the Head by Roger Von Oech. It's all about how to become more creative. It might help you out. I found it to be an enlightening experience.

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(This post was edited by SpaceDemon on Jun 4, 2012, 9:54 PM)
 
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  SpaceDemon  

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SpaceDemon

 Posted:
  Jun 5, 2012, 7:25 AM
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     Re: Looney Tunes:Back in Business(Spec Script idea) [In reply to]  


In Reply To
You guys want to know why I don't come up with my own ideas? I have Writer's Block and I lack very much creativity. That's always been the case when I've come up with an idea, I need to depend on other people to help me. And the one time I actually come up with a good idea, I can't come up with other ideas because...to be honest...THEY SUCK. So that's why I depend on you guys so much.


Here's another thing: you can't force anyone else to have the same passion for something that you do, and you likewise shouldn't get upset if no one else shares your enthusiasm for it. Like I said before, it has to come from you. It's not going to come from anyone else.

That said, I really have to agree with Mark about this thread being closed. When even the thread's creator is now saying that he has no ideas for it and that he's not even going to try to come up with any, then what's the point? I believe it's time for this thread to ride off into the sunset. But do try to read that book that I recommended in my previous post.

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Procrastinators unite....tomorrow.

(This post was edited by SpaceDemon on Jun 5, 2012, 7:48 AM)
 
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  Starburst  

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Starburst

 Posted:
  Jun 5, 2012, 8:26 AM
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     Re: Looney Tunes:Back in Business(Spec Script idea) [In reply to]  


In Reply To
You guys want to know why I don't come up with my own ideas? I have Writer's Block and I lack very much creativity. That's always been the case when I've come up with an idea, I need to depend on other people to help me. And the one time I actually come up with a good idea, I can't come up with other ideas because...to be honest...THEY SUCK. So that's why I depend on you guys so much.


And therein lies the basic problem with this whole scenario since you started this whole spec script business.

You want other people to care about this idea so they'll do all of the work and you can just sit back and write down whatever ideas they come up with, but here's where that plan breaks down: it's not our idea to care about.

You can't shanghai other people into doing your work for you, nor can you expect others to care about your idea as much as you do. I've been working on a project that I've had in development for over a year now, but I don't go on message boards asking other people to come up with all the ideas for me and demanding them to care about my project the way that I do. That's not how one creates. You claim to have "strong passion" for this script, but evidently that passion isn't strong enough to make you want to do any work on it. Even a hack tries.

If you don't care enough about your own idea to attempt to actually write any of it, why should we?

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(This post was edited by Starburst on Jun 5, 2012, 8:27 AM)
 
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  LooneyTunian  

  Inbetweener

 Posted:
  Jun 5, 2012, 12:21 PM

     Re: Looney Tunes:Back in Business(Spec Script idea) [In reply to]  

Well thanks for suggesting the book SpaceDemon! When I have enough money, I buy it and read it!

And you know SpaceDemon, your post inspired me! Maybe I don't even need other subplots! Because, the Looney Tunes are going to be busy enough trying to put this tour together so maybe having other plots would disturb the main plot. And I also now decided to get rid of any fan characters because when I first came up with this idea, I didn't want to have any lead roles like in the past...rather have the actual Toons be the lead roles. What do you guys think?

Although I'm still a little confused how the hotshot producer could be a villain. Unsure

Also, I'm sorry if I got you guys upset with me. I hope you guys don't hold me in ill will. Frown
 
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  MrCleveland  

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MrCleveland

 Posted:
  Jun 5, 2012, 3:16 PM

     Re: Looney Tunes:Back in Business(Spec Script idea) [In reply to]  


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Well Zavkram, I would like to someday have this thread locked(or even erased to not have other people steal my idea), but I feel like not all of my premise is complete(for example: the villain, the biggest fan, what the Toons should do on the tour, subplot for Porky, etc.) and I'd like for this to be open so other people can brainstorm ideas with me before I start writing if it's alright with you. When I have all the ideas I need to start writing, then I'd like this locked if it's alright with you.


I now have the idea where there's a human character who gets kicked-out of a band ("School of Rock") and he loses everything, meets-up with Daffy Duck in a Shelter and they both team-up with Bugs Bunny ("Back in Action") and they get Porky Pig, Sylvester, and go to Chicago to meet-up with the brother of the real human ("Blues Brothers") and there's a battle of the bands as well...

Feel free to PM me...if you can, if not...I can e-mail you!

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  LooneyTunian  

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 Posted:
  Jun 22, 2012, 12:38 AM

     Re: Looney Tunes:Back in Business(Spec Script idea) [In reply to]  

Well, I would like to update my thread with some of my new ideas! The subplots for Bugs/Daffy/Porky are gone, while the subplot for Lola will remain because...I feel like her history needs to be brought up.

And I'm a little confused how the "hotshot" producer is the villain. I mean, how would it make him a villain if he thought what he was doing was right? If he was a villain, wouldn't he do this on purpose? I'm just curious...if there's anyone else left to talk to. Frown

MrCleveland, you're welcome to suggest any ideas centering my idea if you want! Wink


(This post was edited by LooneyTunian on Jun 22, 2012, 12:41 AM)
 
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  SpaceDemon  

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  Jun 22, 2012, 7:03 AM
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     Re: Looney Tunes:Back in Business(Spec Script idea) [In reply to]  


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And I'm a little confused how the "hotshot" producer is the villain. I mean, how would it make him a villain if he thought what he was doing was right? If he was a villain, wouldn't he do this on purpose?


Dude, the hotshot producer wasn't even your idea. It was a suggestion made by someone else. No one is forcing you to go with that idea. If you don't know where to go with the idea, just don't use it.

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(This post was edited by SpaceDemon on Jun 22, 2012, 7:04 AM)
 
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  Starburst  

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  Jun 22, 2012, 8:44 AM
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     Re: Looney Tunes:Back in Business(Spec Script idea) [In reply to]  


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And I'm a little confused how the "hotshot" producer is the villain. I mean, how would it make him a villain if he thought what he was doing was right? If he was a villain, wouldn't he do this on purpose? I'm just curious...if there's anyone else left to talk to. Frown


First, you don't have to keep calling the character "hotshot producer" just because that was the term I used when I suggested it. You're not a robot, you can come up with your own stuff.

Which brings me to my next point: if you don't have any solid ideas for the producer as the villain of the piece, then don't use him as the villain of the piece. I only suggested that the producer character be the lynch pin who sets the story's events in motion, nothing more. Upgrading the producer to the role of villain, having him sabotage the tour and whatnot, was your idea, but if you really can't think of anything for him to do in that capacity, then just don't use him as such. Keep in mind that these suggestions are just that: suggestions. You're not required to go with any of these ideas just because they're suggested to you. If an idea's not working out, then just discard it. None of this is etched in stone.

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(This post was edited by Starburst on Jun 22, 2012, 8:53 AM)
 
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  LooneyTunian  

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 Posted:
  Jun 22, 2012, 7:06 PM

     Re: Looney Tunes:Back in Business(Spec Script idea) [In reply to]  

Well guys I've thought a lot about this, but I'm now going to drop this idea. The reason is because I feel that this is stressful because I'm having to steal your guys' ideas without me coming up with something original.

However, I have another idea for a Looney Tunes movie where I have a lot of ideas and originality! However, I would want to tell you guys via PM so this time no one can steal my idea(which I can actually call mine). So, do you think you guys are interested?
 
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  SpaceDemon  

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  Jun 22, 2012, 7:41 PM
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     Re: Looney Tunes:Back in Business(Spec Script idea) [In reply to]  

No, thanks. I'd prefer not to get involved this time, and I don't think that you have to worry about anyone stealing your other idea(s) because they're all incomplete.

However, if you've decided to drop this idea, then I see no reason to keep this open. Perhaps one of the moderators should close it.

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(This post was edited by SpaceDemon on Jun 22, 2012, 7:44 PM)
 
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  Arthur  

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  Jun 22, 2012, 9:02 PM

     Re: Looney Tunes:Back in Business(Spec Script idea) [In reply to]  

Don't discuss ideas with anyone if you want to keep it private. If you want help, try asking someone you know you can trust and genuinely wants to help you out and see the project come to fruition. If you're too afraid to write it on a public forum, posting it in PM's to people you don't know seems like an almost equally bad idea.

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  zavkram  

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  Jun 23, 2012, 6:48 AM

     Re: Looney Tunes:Back in Business(Spec Script idea) [In reply to]  

OK, that's enough... I'm locking this thread because it's just going around in circles.

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