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Feb 16, 2009, 10:55 AM
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student looking for Tom&Jerry music scores
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Hello,
I am a music university student currently doing a research module on Scott bradley. I am looking for actual film score music for any of his compositions he did Tom and Jerry. This is for educational purposes only.
Could anyone please point me in the right direction?
Thanks,
Nik
(This post was edited by wolfster on Feb 16, 2009, 10:57 AM)
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Feb 16, 2009, 4:39 PM
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Re: student looking for Tom&Jerry music scores
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Your BEST BET would be to pack a suitcase for a trip to L.A.
I made a couple of research trips myself in the early 90s (when I was attempting to get a doctorate). I spent quite a few hours poring over actual music cue sheets--or copies thereof--of the original MGM scores housed in the University of Southern California archives. A real nice guy named Ned Comstock ably assisted me; he was in charge of the archives there.
With surviving MGM music cues, you don't get the annotated action (written by the animator) on the barsheets, just all that's being played underneath. The score to CAT CONCERTO, for instance, wasn't written for one pianist, but rather a piano duo.
I highly recommend the trip.....it'll be (hopefully) a helluva lotta fun, as it was for me.
Getting copyright clearance to reproduce them, at this late date, may be a lot more complicated than it was in my long years as a student (in 1992, MGM & Warner's hadn't yet joined forces). And copies way back then amounted to something like $2 a copy, because of the oversized sheet music. In those days, Coca-Cola/Belwin owned the MGM music rights (probably not anymore).
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"UGGA-UGGA-BOO,
UGGA-BOO-BOO,
UGGA!" --Mel Blanc & Hans Conried
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Feb 17, 2009, 8:13 AM
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Re: student looking for Tom&Jerry music scores
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You think I have the money to take a trip to LA from the UK? the answer is no unfortunatly. I wish I could, but I am a student after all.
Thanks for the info though, it is much appreciated.
regards,
Nik
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Directing Animator
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Feb 17, 2009, 8:37 AM
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Re: student looking for Tom&Jerry music scores
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Well, Wolfster, neither Dingdog or I were aware that you are situated in the UK until just now...
All the same, even if you are not able to make the trip for financial reasons; you still might be able to contact that gentleman at UCLA that Dingdog mentions; either by e-mail, fax, telephone or good old-fashioned "snail-mail".
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"I'd like to cover you with furs and automobiles!"
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Feb 17, 2009, 11:22 AM
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Re: student looking for Tom&Jerry music scores
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Very true. Thanks, I will certainly do so. It will definetly help me with research marks!
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Feb 17, 2009, 12:28 PM
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Re: student looking for Tom&Jerry music scores
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In any case, USC is where virtually ALL of Scott Bradley's scores are housed.
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"UGGA-UGGA-BOO,
UGGA-BOO-BOO,
UGGA!" --Mel Blanc & Hans Conried
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Directing Animator
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Feb 17, 2009, 8:40 PM
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Re: student looking for Tom&Jerry music scores
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What about MGM studio records (memos, ledger sheets, personal correspondence) pertaining to certain productions? Is any of that stuff kept there, as well? I'm talking specifically about any other documents relating to Bradley's employment at MGM.
BTW, Dingdog, did you see my question pertaining to The Missing Mouse? Did you happen to see any surviving documentation, when you were at UCLA, that might shed some light upon the reason(s) why Bradley didn't score that particular cartoon? AFAIK, this is the only MGM cartoon that he didn't work on; that is, between 1934 and 1957.
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"I'd like to cover you with furs and automobiles!"
(This post was edited by zavkram on Feb 26, 2009, 9:36 AM)
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Feb 18, 2009, 12:46 AM
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Re: student looking for Tom&Jerry music scores
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Not really.....as I said before, we just have the music sheets. I believe I said previously that only the piano scores (rendered in Bradley's own hand) exist, but now that I remember, it's really just the full orchestral score, done obviously by an arranger/copyist. There may be a few things from the Harman-Ising days where one sees some action annotation in Bradley's own hand, but that's it.
I recall looking at the cue sheet to TEXAS TOM, and finding that the main musical interludes were prerecorded (Tom mouthing to the record player, etc.) and not included in the written score.
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"UGGA-UGGA-BOO,
UGGA-BOO-BOO,
UGGA!" --Mel Blanc & Hans Conried
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Feb 26, 2009, 9:40 AM
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Re: student looking for Tom&Jerry music scores
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I recently got a reply from Daniel Goldmark to an earlier e-mail I had sent him. I don't want to share anything that he's told me, however, without his permission. I'm waiting to hear back from him on that. He's a very nice fellow, though, and was happy to answer my questions.
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Apr 6, 2009, 6:13 AM
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Re: student looking for Tom&Jerry music scores
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Hello,
I was just wondering if you had heard back from Daniel Goldmark?
regards,
N
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Apr 15, 2009, 8:54 AM
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Re: student looking for Tom&Jerry music scores
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As far finding scores go, I believe I have been successful.
I emailed a certain Peter Morris(a current lecturer at Surrey univeristy), and he told me most of the music has been buried underneath a Golf course in California. But he suggested I contact a librarian from the uni. of south Cali, called Edward Comstock. After conversing with him I found out they had a significant amount of T&J scores, and Edward was extremely kind in scanning some conductor scores of 'Yankee Doodle Mouse' for me. Great stuff!
Im not sure if it would be acceptable to pass this stuff around, But if anyone would like the score then message and I'll see what I can do. I need to get permission to use the music in my project first.
Nik
P.S
I asked Peter Morris if he knew why Scott bradley did not write for 'the missing mouse' but unfortunatly he was as ignorant as the rest of us.
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Apr 16, 2009, 7:20 AM
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Re: student looking for Tom&Jerry music scores
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Yes you're right, I will be careful. It probably would be best not to send it to anyone.
(This post was edited by wolfster on Apr 16, 2009, 7:20 AM)
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